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	<title>Comments on: 3.3 quick updates &amp; race changes</title>
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		<title>By: oneiroi</title>
		<link>http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/3-3-quick-updates-race-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-3362</link>
		<dc:creator>oneiroi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Dec 2009 17:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m getting really frustrated with these rules for rolling. 

I have a balance/resto dual spec, and I&#039;m trying to get out of my blues and into purples, and I&#039;ll be in a group with no cloth wearer, everyone chooses disenchant and then it still won&#039;t let me roll need. 

ugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m getting really frustrated with these rules for rolling. </p>
<p>I have a balance/resto dual spec, and I&#8217;m trying to get out of my blues and into purples, and I&#8217;ll be in a group with no cloth wearer, everyone chooses disenchant and then it still won&#8217;t let me roll need. </p>
<p>ugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Keeva</title>
		<link>http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/3-3-quick-updates-race-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2538</link>
		<dc:creator>Keeva</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 01:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Group Disenchanting Option: In addition to rolling Need or Greed on items, players now have the option to elect for an item to be disenchanted if an enchanter of the appropriate skill level is in the group. Disenchant works exactly like Greed except if a player wins the Greed roll, they will receive the disenchanted materials instead. Players who choose Need will always win the item and will always beat those that choose Greed or Disenchant. &quot;

The notes say Greed=DE.

That is what we have been told to date.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Group Disenchanting Option: In addition to rolling Need or Greed on items, players now have the option to elect for an item to be disenchanted if an enchanter of the appropriate skill level is in the group. Disenchant works exactly like Greed except if a player wins the Greed roll, they will receive the disenchanted materials instead. Players who choose Need will always win the item and will always beat those that choose Greed or Disenchant. &#8221;</p>
<p>The notes say Greed=DE.</p>
<p>That is what we have been told to date.</p>
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		<title>By: Lissanna</title>
		<link>http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/3-3-quick-updates-race-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2532</link>
		<dc:creator>Lissanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arch, according to all the Blizzard feedback at this point, the system was changed to give Greed and DE equal weighting, so that the enchanter in the group couldn&#039;t roll Greed on it just to prevent other people from having a chance at getting the shard if they chose DE. So, right now, if the druid rolled greed &amp; everyone else rolled DE, it&#039;s NOT supposed to automatically go to the person who chose greed in the new 3.3 system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arch, according to all the Blizzard feedback at this point, the system was changed to give Greed and DE equal weighting, so that the enchanter in the group couldn&#8217;t roll Greed on it just to prevent other people from having a chance at getting the shard if they chose DE. So, right now, if the druid rolled greed &#038; everyone else rolled DE, it&#8217;s NOT supposed to automatically go to the person who chose greed in the new 3.3 system.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch</title>
		<link>http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/3-3-quick-updates-race-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2529</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 17:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You really should edit your post there, because greed, and greed for DE do NOT have equal weighting, and people are really not reading the comments that mention this.  If 1 druid greeds a cloth upgrade, and the other 4 greed for DE, the druid will win it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You really should edit your post there, because greed, and greed for DE do NOT have equal weighting, and people are really not reading the comments that mention this.  If 1 druid greeds a cloth upgrade, and the other 4 greed for DE, the druid will win it.</p>
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		<title>By: Lissanna</title>
		<link>http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/3-3-quick-updates-race-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2452</link>
		<dc:creator>Lissanna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:36:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shovel, I&#039;ve run a lot of PUGs in my history of playing the game. Most of what I did in Vanilla WOW was running PUGs. Just because I&#039;m too busy to run them &amp; don&#039;t need gear from the 5-man dungeons right this minute doesn&#039;t mean it isn&#039;t important to me. I also spend a lot of time here talking about things that impact my readers &amp; not necessarily just me directly....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shovel, I&#8217;ve run a lot of PUGs in my history of playing the game. Most of what I did in Vanilla WOW was running PUGs. Just because I&#8217;m too busy to run them &#038; don&#8217;t need gear from the 5-man dungeons right this minute doesn&#8217;t mean it isn&#8217;t important to me. I also spend a lot of time here talking about things that impact my readers &#038; not necessarily just me directly&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Shoveldug</title>
		<link>http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/3-3-quick-updates-race-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2451</link>
		<dc:creator>Shoveldug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 18:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lissanna-

I&#039;m not sure why _you_ are worried.
When is the last time you had to pug anything?

It&#039;s for the poor slobs in nonraiding guilds that this matters.  And well, I&#039;ll give it a shot, and I&#039;m sure I&#039;ll get that incentive pet before ya.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lissanna-</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure why _you_ are worried.<br />
When is the last time you had to pug anything?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s for the poor slobs in nonraiding guilds that this matters.  And well, I&#8217;ll give it a shot, and I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ll get that incentive pet before ya.</p>
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		<title>By: Noctune</title>
		<link>http://www.restokin.com/2009/10/3-3-quick-updates-race-changes/comment-page-1/#comment-2447</link>
		<dc:creator>Noctune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This change suck as its dscribed by GhostCrawler 

Need --&gt; (Greed  OR  DE ) this is huge impact on the game due to the bad itimization on alot of gear.    

Shaman &amp; Paladins wearing Cloth 
Warrior DPS &amp; Hunters wearing leather boots (Best in slot)
and the list can go on. 

there is just one thing that can kill a great MMO and thats the game itself when they patch it.

considering im playing Shaman (Restro &amp; Elemental) and a Druid (Bear tank &amp;  Moonkin) yes im wearing some odd pieces of cloth on my castergear i prefere the right armour types but i whould enjoy pugging even less to see stuff gets DE 

DE == you robbed someone of an upgrade.

even if its just a 10% chance of that person will ever use the item i whould give him the item above taking it my self. 


best thing whould have a fourth option

     

just add the new stuff to the new button and leave the old Need that way, ofc the new buutton should have priority over normal Need,  i don&#039;t get to mess with losing gear to DE this will be frequent with the new changes. 


this will only create more loot drama  DE mats will drop in price, ppl will Need on class item just to get extra gold. *shrugg* it only makes more problems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This change suck as its dscribed by GhostCrawler </p>
<p>Need &#8211;&gt; (Greed  OR  DE ) this is huge impact on the game due to the bad itimization on alot of gear.    </p>
<p>Shaman &amp; Paladins wearing Cloth<br />
Warrior DPS &amp; Hunters wearing leather boots (Best in slot)<br />
and the list can go on. </p>
<p>there is just one thing that can kill a great MMO and thats the game itself when they patch it.</p>
<p>considering im playing Shaman (Restro &amp; Elemental) and a Druid (Bear tank &amp;  Moonkin) yes im wearing some odd pieces of cloth on my castergear i prefere the right armour types but i whould enjoy pugging even less to see stuff gets DE </p>
<p>DE == you robbed someone of an upgrade.</p>
<p>even if its just a 10% chance of that person will ever use the item i whould give him the item above taking it my self. </p>
<p>best thing whould have a fourth option</p>
<p>just add the new stuff to the new button and leave the old Need that way, ofc the new buutton should have priority over normal Need,  i don&#8217;t get to mess with losing gear to DE this will be frequent with the new changes. </p>
<p>this will only create more loot drama  DE mats will drop in price, ppl will Need on class item just to get extra gold. *shrugg* it only makes more problems.</p>
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