Comments on: Druid Healer survey results (part 2 of 2) http://www.restokin.com/2009/12/druid-healer-survey-results-part-2-of-2/ Lissanna's blog about druids Fri, 10 Sep 2010 17:29:05 +0000 hourly 1 By: Lissanna http://www.restokin.com/2009/12/druid-healer-survey-results-part-2-of-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3230 Lissanna Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:48:28 +0000 http://www.restokin.com/?p=2842#comment-3230 The responses to the multiple choice gear question were framed as: "At least 2 pieces of Tier 9," "At least 2 pieces of Tier 10". So, not all the T10 responses plan on wearing 4-pieces of it. The responses to the multiple choice gear question were framed as: “At least 2 pieces of Tier 9,” “At least 2 pieces of Tier 10″. So, not all the T10 responses plan on wearing 4-pieces of it.

]]> By: Praen http://www.restokin.com/2009/12/druid-healer-survey-results-part-2-of-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3228 Praen Sat, 05 Dec 2009 20:41:03 +0000 http://www.restokin.com/?p=2842#comment-3228 First of all, i wanna thank you for the survey which u conducted, it's a really nice tool to see healer druid habits in general. But, i have some doubts or we can say some questions regarding the question for "future gear". Although many ppl responded for using t10 set in ICC, i'm not sure whether they properly compared t10 and t9 set bonuses. In terms of item respect, ofc t10 set pieces will surpass t9 set pieces, but set bonuses should be analyzed closely. For instance, what'll be the actual effect of 2 pc bonus of t10 set on druid healing? (especially while mmo-champion and wowhead says "30% less over time" not "0%". When we consider WG healing, only first one or two ticks; three at most, heal effectively and the rest goes to overheal since especially if u have 6 healers in ur raid. Is there any simulation craft like study to see the numbers of healing affected by t10 and t19 set bonuses respectively? N.B: English is not my mother tongue, so pls forgive me if i made a mistake while trying to express my thoughts :) First of all, i wanna thank you for the survey which u conducted, it’s a really nice tool to see healer druid habits in general. But, i have some doubts or we can say some questions regarding the question for “future gear”. Although many ppl responded for using t10 set in ICC, i’m not sure whether they properly compared t10 and t9 set bonuses. In terms of item respect, ofc t10 set pieces will surpass t9 set pieces, but set bonuses should be analyzed closely. For instance, what’ll be the actual effect of 2 pc bonus of t10 set on druid healing? (especially while mmo-champion and wowhead says “30% less over time” not “0%”. When we consider WG healing, only first one or two ticks; three at most, heal effectively and the rest goes to overheal since especially if u have 6 healers in ur raid.

Is there any simulation craft like study to see the numbers of healing affected by t10 and t19 set bonuses respectively?

N.B: English is not my mother tongue, so pls forgive me if i made a mistake while trying to express my thoughts :)

]]> By: Keldara http://www.restokin.com/2009/12/druid-healer-survey-results-part-2-of-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3209 Keldara Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:36:06 +0000 http://www.restokin.com/?p=2842#comment-3209 Aye, that seems to be the most viable trick -- swapping out RR and WG depending on if doing 10 or 25-man. As for talents, I do have 5/5 Tranquil Spirit for the decreased cost on Nourish. I've had it since starting out in heroics, when it was noticeable and useful. Now, I'm not so sure it's worth the five points. Thoughts in the back of my mind tell me I need it for that "just in case" moment (that never seem to happen). I suspect I need to do some number crunching on Nourish's mana cost. I may be overvaluing its actual value point by point. Aye, that seems to be the most viable trick — swapping out RR and WG depending on if doing 10 or 25-man.

As for talents, I do have 5/5 Tranquil Spirit for the decreased cost on Nourish. I’ve had it since starting out in heroics, when it was noticeable and useful. Now, I’m not so sure it’s worth the five points. Thoughts in the back of my mind tell me I need it for that “just in case” moment (that never seem to happen). I suspect I need to do some number crunching on Nourish’s mana cost. I may be overvaluing its actual value point by point.

]]> By: Lissanna http://www.restokin.com/2009/12/druid-healer-survey-results-part-2-of-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3208 Lissanna Sat, 05 Dec 2009 16:09:30 +0000 http://www.restokin.com/?p=2842#comment-3208 There are some people who do both 10 & 25-man raids that wrote that they are planning to have two resto specs. The rapid rejuv glyph is better for 10's than it is for 25's, so I plan to use the "swapping" method, where I use the WG one for 25's and the RR one for 10's. It is really hard to figure out the best thing to do. That's why a lot of people still aren't sure. There are some people who do both 10 & 25-man raids that wrote that they are planning to have two resto specs. The rapid rejuv glyph is better for 10′s than it is for 25′s, so I plan to use the “swapping” method, where I use the WG one for 25′s and the RR one for 10′s.

It is really hard to figure out the best thing to do. That’s why a lot of people still aren’t sure.

]]> By: Keldara http://www.restokin.com/2009/12/druid-healer-survey-results-part-2-of-2/comment-page-1/#comment-3205 Keldara Sat, 05 Dec 2009 13:08:22 +0000 http://www.restokin.com/?p=2842#comment-3205 It'd be interesting to know from the people who said Yes to the RR question, what glyph they are intending to drop for it. Personally, I'm sitting on the Swiftmend, Wild Growth and Nourish ones running both 10 and 25 man, only the former on heroic mode, and I'm having a bang of an issue trying to decide which glyph will be worth dropping. For 10 man, I'm considering swapping out WG as tanks will be taking more steady damage in ICC and Nourish seems to be more worthwhile than WG hitting *one* extra target (assuming six people are actually in range of it, which rarely is the case in my experience in a 10 man.) Obviously depends on if the encounter deals with heavy raid damage or not (Hi Twins!), but in the general gist of things. For 25 man, I'm stumped: RR? Nourish? WG? Raid damage? Tank damage? Raid healing? Tank healing? And so on. I'm feeling more and more forced to go into a CF spec come 3.3. As it is now I don't feel Nature's Grace is worth speccing into due to what I'll sacrifice in the resto tree, let alone CF and having to move 7 points to get it. What to give up? At this rate we'll have no \free points\ to put where desired on a personal basis, skewed slightly if primarily tank focused or not. I'm beginning to feel as though I need a resto 10 man spec, resto 25 man spec and a resto tank healing spec (not to mention forced into a arena spec by my BF). Add to that carrying with me 10 of each RR, Nourish and WG glyphs, and possibly the Rejuvenation one (I don't do this now, due to Valkyr Twins being the only fight where I'd consider dropping the Nourish glyph for Rejuvenation were we ever to go two-healing it on heroic). So many things to consider and weigh against one another. It’d be interesting to know from the people who said Yes to the RR question, what glyph they are intending to drop for it.

Personally, I’m sitting on the Swiftmend, Wild Growth and Nourish ones running both 10 and 25 man, only the former on heroic mode, and I’m having a bang of an issue trying to decide which glyph will be worth dropping. For 10 man, I’m considering swapping out WG as tanks will be taking more steady damage in ICC and Nourish seems to be more worthwhile than WG hitting *one* extra target (assuming six people are actually in range of it, which rarely is the case in my experience in a 10 man.) Obviously depends on if the encounter deals with heavy raid damage or not (Hi Twins!), but in the general gist of things.

For 25 man, I’m stumped: RR? Nourish? WG? Raid damage? Tank damage? Raid healing? Tank healing? And so on.

I’m feeling more and more forced to go into a CF spec come 3.3. As it is now I don’t feel Nature’s Grace is worth speccing into due to what I’ll sacrifice in the resto tree, let alone CF and having to move 7 points to get it. What to give up? At this rate we’ll have no \free points\ to put where desired on a personal basis, skewed slightly if primarily tank focused or not.

I’m beginning to feel as though I need a resto 10 man spec, resto 25 man spec and a resto tank healing spec (not to mention forced into a arena spec by my BF).

Add to that carrying with me 10 of each RR, Nourish and WG glyphs, and possibly the Rejuvenation one (I don’t do this now, due to Valkyr Twins being the only fight where I’d consider dropping the Nourish glyph for Rejuvenation were we ever to go two-healing it on heroic).

So many things to consider and weigh against one another.

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